
Look, the most important thing, I might and maybe must think, is that they have understood they shouldn't enter politics the way evangelicals did until recently and that their Christian Faith pulls them towards taking on the AIDS problem and to stop marginalizing people. That is where Krista Tippett comes in and where the parallels with Jim Wallis are drawn. That is also where obviously, they cannot be solely identified with a conservative right wing view on society.

I always knew Rick was — that God had big plans for Rick. I met him when he was 17. And I said he was — I had never met anybody like him then and I've never met anybody like him to this day. So I had a sense that God was going to do something through Rick, not because Rick was anything different, it's just — for whatever reason, it was God's choice that he was going to use Rick.
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